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Jude 8-10 Demonic Dreamers Face Destruction

2019-08-18

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Jude 8-10 Demonic Dreamers face Destruction


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8 Likewise also these dreamers defile/stain/pollute the flesh, de reject/annul authority, de speak evil of dignitaries/glories. (9 Yet Michael the archangel (Who is like God), in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!") 10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know/understand; and whatever they know/acquainted with naturally, like brute beasts/unreasoning animals, in these things they corrupt themselves.

2Pt 2:9 Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for The Day of Judgment,

10 and esp those who walk acc to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed/pleasing. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries/glories  (11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.)  12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption,  13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness

I. Demonic Defilement of the Flesh thru fleshly unsanctified desires disqualifying themselves from worship, service and blessing

Unreal worldview - unconscious of: their sin, self delusion/defilement/destruction, future judgment. Unbridled freedom=slavery Rm 6

Ps 36:1  sins of the wicked: no fear of God before his eyes. 2 flatter self 3 words wickedness and deceit 4 not abhor evil.

Titus 1:14 turn from truth 15 unbelieving is nothing pure; their mind and conscience is defiled  Heb 12:15 bitterness...many be defiled

Eph 4:22 put off, re your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt acc to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and that you put on the new man which was created acc to God, in true righteousness and holiness. 25 Therefore 29...30

II. Demonic Rejection of  Authority (Lordship, and Lord-ordained state/church/family) thru fearless self-will (bitterness toward God) 

Isa 14:13 you have said in your heart: ' I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the far sides of the north; 14  I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.'

Heb 13:7 Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of God to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct. 17 Obey/be persuaded re: your/leaders/those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you.  Eph 5:21 in fear of God

III. Demonic Accusation thru Speaking Evil against God's servants to undermine their work (esp reproof) 

Rev 12:10 Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come (cf 1Pt 1 “revelation), for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

Zech 3:1 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the Angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to oppose him. 2 And the LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire? 3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and was standing before the Angel. 4...Take away the filthy garments from him.    He said, "See, I have removed your iniquity from you, and I will clothe you with rich robes. 7  If you will walk in My ways, and if you will keep My command, Then you shall also judge/rule My house, and have charge of My courts; I will give you places to walk among these who stand here

Mt 12:36 But I say to you that for every idle/unprofitable word men may speak, they will give account of it in The Day of Judgment.

Pr 9:7 He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself, and he who rebukes a wicked man only harms himself. 8 Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.

1Thess 4:9 Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit. 

IV. Deserved Doom/Consequence of uncomprehending carnal brutes unreasoning is that they utterly perish in their own corruption

Phil 3:18 enemies of the cross of Christ (self-denial) 19  Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.   Rm 8: to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Heb 2:1 we must give the more earnest attention to the things we have heard, lest we drift away/past. 2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just wage/payback/penalty/punishment. 3 how shall we escape punishment if we neglect so great a salvation?  Cf Hebrews warning passages to believers in DTB

1Pt 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18  "If the righteous one is scarcely saved, where will the ungodly and the sinner appear? 

Pr 11:31 If the righteous will be recompensed on the earth, How much more the ungodly and the sinner (miss the mark)? 

Questions for Reflection/Discussion/Response:

1. Why is satan so anti-God/Lordship and accusing of God's servants? Why do NT believers rebel against God, His Word, and His authorities? 

2. How does one distinguish between God ordained and corrupt authority? Can God use/work thru “bad” authorities (channel hearts Pr 21)?

3. Why should a believer be concerned if they are corrupt or disqualified from serving God? Why are we warned about future judgment?

4. In what ways have your thinking, values, and life changed as a believer? What prompted/caused the change?